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sosUSA
09/10/2010
Ed,
I agree with you, I know Wikipedia is not a reliable source for accurate commentary on anything (aka ‘Wikedpedia’ lol) — I only ever use it as a quick reference for basic info, i.e. dates and stats on people and organizations (e.g. founders names, background etc. re MEMRI).
It’s easy enough to pick out the relevant data for applicable details. My only point was the need to consider the normal, natural bias (and/or stated agenda) of any source in order to accurately evaluate what’s presented.
It’s definitely not easy to question such things when they appeal to and agree with our most cherished beliefs, of course, but I’ve realized that’s just when the effort is needed to avoid being socially and politically manipulated.
papundits
09/10/2010
sosUSA,
Well stated!
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sosUSA
09/09/2010
The intended emotive/propaganda effect is evident, of course, but is there no other info, reference source or context for this (apart from Memri tv) as to who, what, when or where this is supposed to be — addressed to and recorded by whom?
papundits
09/10/2010
sosUSA,
Thanks for commenting.
MEMRI is well known and respected for their unbiased revelations of what the Political Islamists say in their own language to their followers versus what they say in English for our consumption.
I think it was they (or CAMERA) that correctly translated what Yasser Arafat really said in Arabic for our TV’s which was almost the opposite of his ‘official’ translators version.
I forget the date of this but the fact remains is that this is a daily occurrence in the Middle East and in Islamist Mosques in the western world including the USA. All mosques financed by the Saudis will probably have this type of inflammatory rhetoric.
—ed
sosUSA
09/10/2010
I don’t doubt the accuracy of translation (also easily confirmed by Arabic speakers), like the Arafat speeches. I just think it is helpful to know the identity, location, full context and time frame to better evaluate edited content. Not sure any intel-based organization dealing with the Middle East could really be considered “unbiased” though – especially when the political history is understood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute
e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb3vF6Vcjr0
papundits
09/10/2010
sosUSA
As Tony reminds me Wikipedia is not known for it’s accuracy and is generally slanted toward the Left. This is especially true of posts regarding anything involving politics.
(Not to blow our own horn, but in fact PA Pundits – International is much more accurate than Wikipedia)
We both do use Wikipedia for some things, like images or geographical info, but generally I take them with a grain of salt.
Political Research Associates (PRA), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Research_Associates
which is quoted at the top of the article on MEMRI, is an extremely Leftist organization! Read the post on them especially toward the end.
“PRA is supported by a number of progressive and liberal activists …” Hmmm I wonder why?
“PRA is likewise criticized by conservative groups…” and for good reason.
I got so tired of reading them and ferreting out their mistakes (lies) through research that I gave up reading anything that they put out. It’s just an exercise in futility and a waste of my precious time.
Re: video “Ron Paul – Israel Created Hamas 01-09-09″
My hearing is especially bad today – poor hearing plus allergies and sinus problem – that I have a difficult time hearing any vids.
But I agree with the title. If Israel didn’t give up Gaza there would be no Hamas hurtling tons of rockets toward civilians on almost a daily basis!!!
Our Presidents, including the Republicans, stupidly listen to and follow our State Department’s erroneous Leftist mandates re: Israel and their land.
I used to say they started their Leftward spiral from about the end of WWII. They pushed for support of Mao and his “Agrarian” reform against all the advice from knowledgeable people in the field that knew Mao and gang for what they really were.
But I did more research and found I was mistaken. They started their Leftist spiral around WWI.
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